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2001-10-06 DTR-001
Department of Transport, Local Government and the Regions


Railtrack: meeting with John Robinson

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Department of Transport, Local Government and the Regions

Railtrack: meeting with John Robinson

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2001-07-05 Meeting with John Robinson (Department of Transport, Local Government and the Regions)

2001-10-07 Railtrack placed in administration (Department of Transport, Local Government and the Regions)


6 October 2001
source Department of Transport, Local Government and the Regions
type Minutes


Room 6/B6
Eland House

6 October 2001

David Rowlands

PS / John Spellar
PS / Permanent Secretary
Bob Linnard
Phillip Ward
Judith-Anne McKenzie
David McMillan
Dan Corry
Jo Moore


You were present on 5 October when the Secretary of State met with John
Robinson, Chairman of Railtrack.

2. The Secretary of State said he wished to inform Mr Robinson of certain decisions
he had taken that afternoon in relation to Railtrack.

3. The Secretary of State noted that Mr Robinson had put a package of proposals -
"Rainbow" -to him in late July, relating to the fuiance and regulation of the
company. The Government had since been considering these proposals. However,
in view of the Secretary of State's concerns about the open-ended nature of the
financial commitments being sought by Railtrack, the Government had also been
considering the possible consequences should funding be refused, including the
possibility that it might be necessary for the company to enter Railway
Administration under the terms of the 1993 Act.

4. The Secretary of State [[?said]] that he had now decided he could not agree to the
"Rainbow" proposals, which would entail unlimited calls on the public finances.
The Government had said in its April agreement with Railtrack that it stood
behind the railway, not individual companies. The Secretary of State had decided
that Government could not offer additional financial support to Railtrack.

5. The Secretary of State said that it appeared the company was insolvent. If so, the
Government's preferred approach now would be to reach agreement with Railtrack
that the company should enter railway administration. Furthermore, it was the
Government's view that a government proposal for a private company limited by
guarantee should be put to the administrator and it was expected that this would be
the best proposal for a vehicle to emerge from administration. The government
would therefore work to bring forward this proposal. Such a company limited by
guarantee would, in the Secretary of State's view, be able to concentrate on
running the railway network without focusing on the interests of shareholders.

6 If agreement could not be reached with Railtrack on a move into railway
administration, the Secretary of State said, if necessary, he would state publicly on
Monday that there would be no additional Government financial support for

7. The Secretary of State said that on a personal level, he valued his working
relationship with John Robinson and regretted the need to inform him of these
difficult decisions. Both the Prime Minister and he had confidence in Mr
Robinson and hoped he would be prepared to stay on during administration and to
indicate that he would be prepared to chair the new CLG. You said the prospective
administrator had indicated he would prefer Steve Marshall also to remain.

8. You said it was the Government's intention that the company debt should be kept
whole. Treatment of shareholders would be a matter for the administrator and
Government would not offer a view on this point. It was the responsibility of the
Administrator to determine what value there might be in the company. You also.
said that there was a full financing agreement ready to be put in place with the
Administrators and a debt market management exercise ready to go.

9. Mr Robinson asked how the new CLG proposed would raise money. You said the
CLq would have access to funding streams such as track access charges. It would
also be able to borrow on the debt markets.

10.You said that the initial membership of the proposed CLG would be determined
by the SRA. Other members would be drawn in gradually, including interests
from across the industry such as franchise holders. The pIc Board was likely to
need to be reconstituted at that point. You confirmed that pension rights of
Railtrack employees would not be affected by a transfer into administration.

11.You said the Secretary of State expected to petition the judge on Sunday night. In
order to do so he would seek a resolution from the Railtrack pIc Board accepting
that the company was insolvent.

12.John Robinson said he had been taking advice on a weekly basis as to whether,
consistent with his statutory duties, he could be confident the company was
trading legally. He was confident this was so as long as the company was engaged
in a dialogue with the Government about Rainbow. It would therefore be vital for
him to see what Government intended to say about this. The Secretary of State
agreed he would show Mr Robinson in advance what he proposed to say.

13.The Secretary of State further noted that Railtrack might consider the option of an
appeal to the Regulator. The Secretary of State said he had authority to introduce a
short bill to enable him to direct the Regulator as to the exercise of his functions,
which could be used to close off the option of any interim review. He would
pursue this course of action if necessary.

14.Mr Robinson said he had a fiduciary duty towards his shareholders. He had to do
the best he could for them and make public statements consistent with those
duties. The Secretary of State accepted this; officials would be ready to discuss the
way forward with the Railtrack Board over the weekend.

15.You noted that if Railtrack pIc were to enter administration, Railtrack Group
would continue to trade.

16.The Secretary of State said that the proposed new CLG model would have
regulatory implications, particularly for the roles of the SRA and ORR. He had
spoken to the Regulator about this. John Robinson agreed that the regulatory
regime needed to be streamlined.

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